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Post by kokonutwoman on Jan 30, 2008 17:24:22 GMT 12
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Post by Lux on Jan 30, 2008 17:44:24 GMT 12
Problem is some of these kids who have dropped out of school aren't of legal age to leave school anyway. Theres a whole lot of kids who have fallen out of the system and no-one knows what the heck they are doing -
Personally I want my kids to stay at secondary until they achieve all levels, then go onto uni, or poly depending on what they decide to do.
What I'm wondering is what message does John Keys policy of free education for drop outs, mean to other teenagers - is that a good incentive to drop out of high school? Free higher education. How about free education for all kids leaving high school?
I may have it all up the shoot, please correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by misilon on Jan 30, 2008 20:41:32 GMT 12
lux explain to me how NCEA makes it really easy to get into uni ,..as opposed to when the old system existed all my girls achieved school C ,... our youngest one did seven subjects last yr and did very very well but then I read as above ,...I think I know but??? |
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Post by Lux on Jan 30, 2008 21:31:02 GMT 12
Misi come back to it tomorrow my comp doing a go slow so I'm doing the old debugger thing - taking to long to navigate. BBL  |
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Post by kokonutwoman on Jan 31, 2008 8:20:35 GMT 12
Raising the leaving age will work for who? Is it a solution to elevate youth crime or youth violence?
A couple of years ago I was involved with what I called 'last stop shop' school for kids that had fallen through the education cracks. These alternative schools seem to work and the kids seem to respond to that style but as usual the funding became a real issue. (what else is new)
Really interesting issue when talking about our youth's education. I had two children that went through the old system achieving bursary and the younger two went through this latest debacle called NCEA. Although both boys are achieving their levels. I can say that I don't favour this new examination system.
Misi
My take in NCEA and uni is that it is easier to get into uni but I feel it doesn't prepare them for the academic work load and pressure unless they are that way incline.
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Post by Lux on Jan 31, 2008 19:39:37 GMT 12
The NCEA is confusing all I know is I want my kids to stay at high school until they achieve the highest level. People may think it's easier because it is mostly internal assessments? Though I kind of like the idea that kids need to work steadily throughout the year.
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Post by misilon on Jan 31, 2008 20:08:09 GMT 12
my bubba worked really hard for her exams,..
the walls of our home had print out papers all over the place in giant letters even in the toilet and bathroom
I have no idea what some of them even meant, but because its something we encourage in our home, we told her to just talk about them to us and and her friends, to put thoughts into a brief talk, and she did, I was worried about the fact that she had aimed so high for her part ,
she said its ok Ill pass, its that I want to be top of the class is all or somewhere up there ,...wow!! blew me away. Im such a dummy
she is a studious girl by nature all her sisters were ,..I d love her to stay at school she dosent mind either so I was just a bit peeved at the idea that her hard work was being put down as no effort by some is all,...
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Post by misilon on Jan 31, 2008 20:10:29 GMT 12
thank you for your thoughts Kokonutwoman and lux I appreciated them much of a much
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Post by maire on Feb 1, 2008 17:05:42 GMT 12
I don't think raising the age (Labour) or free vouchers(National)
will do anything worthwhile.
What they need is to train teachers for todays children.
Not last centurys children.
Too many teachers do not know how to cope with, let alone
teach a lot of todays youth.
This quote from koko is what I think should be part of the
the mainstream school system .....
Why not have these "alternative" schools as part of the mainstream school?
Depending on the numbers of kids falling through the cracks
and it seems to get higher & higher, these types of classes should by fully funded and definitely part of every secondary and maybe even primary school.
TPUs are another area where teenage
mothers are given the chance to go back to finish/further their education.
If it can be done for what I presume is a minority group, why not for the much larger, definitely more needy group.
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Post by misilon on Feb 8, 2008 15:29:47 GMT 12
good gracious!! $750 fees for this yr,..how are some of the kids parents going to afford that?
what happens if they have more than one in high school,?
it's down to the subjects they choose,
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