naki
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Post by naki on Dec 9, 2008 12:37:17 GMT 12
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Post by Lux on Dec 9, 2008 20:30:52 GMT 12
Hard call to make really something which you would have to look at case by case, mum and dad could have been tucked up soundly after a hard days work, thinking their brat was also - but no.
On the other hand mum and dad might have been partying all night and not even know where their brat was.
Either way, the kids certainly need to learn some harsh consequences.
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Post by maire on Dec 10, 2008 6:24:51 GMT 12
Sometimes it's an accident too ... when my sister was
about 12, her and a friend had been smoking behind a hedge at the local primary school.
They didn't put out the butt properly and the hedge caught fire.
I can remember the trouble she got into with mum & dad for that!!
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Post by sparrow on Dec 10, 2008 8:31:09 GMT 12
That's appalling. Agree it's a hard call, but something does need to be done. I would look at making the parents responsible (if they are). Also agree on it could have been an accident, but if I was the Police, I would be making all sorts of enquiries to see what went on and if the parents were partying, and the kids were neglected ... there would be consequences. As a personal view, I hate wannabe gangstar types and I think this sort of behaviour should be stamped out by parents, and the community. |
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Post by naki on Dec 10, 2008 9:13:27 GMT 12
Sometimes it's an accident too ... this was no accident. Paper and cardboard was deliberately stacked against a wooden door and lit. It's one of the most substatial acts in a string of arsons this year. www.stuff.co.nz/dailynews/4787809a6002.htmlReading this article, the comments by Manukorihi Intermediate principal John Niwa strike me as being a shining example of everything that is wrong in this community. When a school principal seeks to deflect responsibility away from his own doorstep by blaming 'out of towners', and compounds the problem by undermining confidence in the police and justice system, perhaps it's time for that principal to step down and allow a more professional educator to tackle the problem. |
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Post by sparrow on Dec 10, 2008 9:32:51 GMT 12
Couldn't agree more, Naki. What they're trying to do is protect their own backsides. I've seen schools do this time and time again. I don't understand the mentality. Take care of your turf and people will have more confidence in you. I think this principle could be extended across all our institutions - instead they think they're protecting something!
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Post by Lux on Dec 10, 2008 11:53:02 GMT 12
I have a feeling that confidence in the police is not something greatly upheld in Waitara. Actually police in Waitara haven't had a very good rep for over a century.
As for the justice system who is happy with it?
I do feel for schools in respect that they are expected to act with hands tied behind their backs. It can be very frustrating for teachers, children and parents of children who are at school to learn to be constantly held to ransom by a few hooligans. There does need to be some outside structure to deal with the 'few' while school teachers and principals get on with the task of the running and teaching of/in there schools Often when schools do make a firm stand they come up against a whole pile of bureaucracy which disempowers them anyway.
Police lack resources or are dealing with greater crime, the justice system is a joke!
It is the principals job to create an atmosphere of community within his school to do that he needs the support of his staff, parents and students, create pride the in environment and give the community ownership of it.
...I think we'll see a few more stories like this and worse around the Country over the next couple of years, the early '90' s boom babies are now teenagers!
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Post by cailz on Dec 27, 2008 11:57:09 GMT 12
This angers me no end. Plunket does such a great job in the community and then you have these young people committing arson and destroying buildings and property because they can. Unfortunately most of the time they get away with it and are not held accountable to the degree they should when caught. A few weeks back a local girl decided to start a fire at her high school on a whim and when confronted, she made some excuse and got off scott free. They simply are not held responsible for their actions these days, it's way too easy for the youth to do exactly as they please.
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Post by sparrow on Dec 27, 2008 12:11:11 GMT 12
This angers me no end. Plunket does such a great job in the community and then you have these young people committing arson and destroying buildings and property because they can. Unfortunately most of the time they get away with it and are not held accountable to the degree they should when caught. A few weeks back a local girl decided to start a fire at her high school on a whim and when confronted, she made some excuse and got off scott free. They simply are not held responsible for their actions these days, it's way too easy for the youth to do exactly as they please. Unbelievable!  I agree with you. They should be held accountable. Arson (or attempted arson) is a big deal and should be treated as such. |
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