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Post by Lux on Jul 14, 2007 11:06:56 GMT 12
I'm thinking of Religion and how exclusive some different faiths are. Does it not say somewhere in the bible that Jesus wanted his followers to spread the good word to everyone in the world? Or in God's case everyone is made in his image? So in respect of Christian faiths why are some people excluded from joining various religions?
Is it because the basis of religions come from the interpretations handed down from the men/women (mostly men I would think) who started them? and if this is so are followers of different religions then following the word of men, not of God?
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Post by maire on Jul 16, 2007 18:32:06 GMT 12
One word Lux ...... yes.
That's what I think is the answer to your last question.
Each translation of the bible, is that particular churches belief.
And every church think theirs is the correct interpretation.
Totally confusing to any who are looking in from outside, of course.
And probably why there are so many who question the whole idea of religion.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 8, 2008 12:25:30 GMT 12
Religion is such a contentious issue. My eldest son has his own spin on it even though he attends a very religious school. His take, I haven't seen him, I have to take someone's word that he exists and there is so many disasters in world so if he were real then people wouldn't suffer.
Exclusiveness in religion doesn't gel especially if we're suppose to be all equal.
While contemplating my navel my thoughts also wondered to the door knocking religion, spreading the word.
Thinking about them I can not escape the thought, that perhaps these door knocker belong to a cult using religion as a selling point.
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Post by lolly on Jun 26, 2008 21:21:18 GMT 12
I have always believed in there being a god , but what that god is....I cannot define.I follow the particular path that i follow.Because it suits me to follow it.Its suits others to follow a different path.What ever path we choose weare just trying to find that ultimate something.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Jun 27, 2008 9:49:43 GMT 12
Like you lolly I believe in a higher being but I have chosen not to part of any particular church. If I get all religious like and feel attending a service I tend to stick with what I was drag up RC. My husband and I sent our kids to religious schools not so much for the religious aspects but academic. When they were 13/14 we allowed them their own choose. One of my daughters has returned to the church and that's cool her choice. The rest of us still enjoy the religious debates in the house.
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Post by lolly on Jun 27, 2008 12:56:50 GMT 12
Religious dabte in my family come from people of all persepctives which is great...
I try to tolerate people of all faith or non faith my weakness being.......
teasing those who take themselves to seriously...........
sigh...i am workingon it....lol
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Post by kokonutwoman on Jun 27, 2008 15:23:50 GMT 12
nah nah nah don't do that lolly what adds colour to a good debate
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Post by ringdove on Jul 6, 2008 15:40:18 GMT 12
Just a little bit of loud thinking : Can one say anything here time period wise?
Could one say for instance that older religions [ in the ancient world ] were less inclined to exclude than "newer" ones have been?
Ringdove
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Post by toerag on Jul 6, 2008 17:54:55 GMT 12
Well thats thought provoking. From what very little knowledge I have I'd say yes
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Post by ringdove on Jul 7, 2008 14:57:02 GMT 12
Could it be that the older (ancient) religions also exclude but in a different way?
The newer religions exclude doctrinally - you either fully accept their doctrine or you dont.
The older religions may exclude ethnically - either you are born into them or you are not.
Ringdove
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Post by Lux on Jul 7, 2008 20:51:09 GMT 12
Wise words.
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Post by haemani on Jan 17, 2009 22:57:55 GMT 12
Could it be that the older (ancient) religions also exclude but in a different way? The newer religions exclude doctrinally - you either fully accept their doctrine or you dont. The older religions may exclude ethnically - either you are born into them or you are not. Ringdove I see a mix of both examples in old and new religious teachings.It seems to be up to the individual as to how we go about it.I see Allah as my only God.Many of my Muslim brothers and sisters have a slightly different idea of what is expected from them in order to please Allah,much the same as my Catholic friends who also differ in opinions and actions.I think we all just should get on with each other. Praise. |
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Post by Lux on Jan 19, 2009 21:16:31 GMT 12
hear hear!
The problem is some people are so myopic in their belief systems that anything even slightly different or diverse sends them into a tizz...
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Post by maire on Jan 20, 2009 12:59:22 GMT 12
True Lux .. and the more fundamental, the more intolerant. My born again son is shocking in his condemnation of Catholics (his dad is one & we have some lovely arguments), Muslims, Jehovah Witness & a myriad of other branches of Christianity. It shuts him up for a minute when I tell him a lot of what he believes is the same as what I have seen our Misi write. It makes me happy I'm on the outside and can appreciate the good points in all of them  |
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Post by cailz on Jan 20, 2009 14:24:14 GMT 12
True Lux .. and the more fundamental, the more intolerant. My born again son is shocking in his condemnation of Catholics (his dad is one & we have some lovely arguments), Muslims, Jehovah Witness & a myriad of other branches of Christianity. It shuts him up for a minute when I tell him a lot of what he believes is the same as what I have seen our Misi write. It makes me happy I'm on the outside and can appreciate the good points in all of them He's young and fervent in his beliefs right now, give him time and he'll mellow and become wiser with age. It's not so much what you believe as how you express those beliefs to people around you. |
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Post by sparrow on Jan 20, 2009 15:34:11 GMT 12
Agreed Cailz. I have a friend who is a FUNDAMENTAL atheist and finds it difficult to be tolerant of people who believe. Actually, my husband is a bit like that too. Lol. As long as beliefs don't really impinge on anyone else, what is the harm?
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Post by maire on Jan 21, 2009 8:01:49 GMT 12
I do hope that is the case cailz. He seems to be getting more fervent every day. He has a prayer group meeting at least three nights a week here and goes to other meetings every other night and church on Sunday, then back here with his brothers & sisters. I'm not too concerned with that, it's his intolerance to others that is a worry. But I have to admit he has stopped telling us we will spend eternity in hell if we don't bow to his God .. that might mean he is on the road to mellowness  |
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Post by cailz on Jan 21, 2009 15:44:50 GMT 12
He sounds like a good son Maire. I wouldn't mind if mine turned out like that.  |
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