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Post by kokonutwoman on Feb 10, 2009 7:20:49 GMT 12
Sorry more doom and gloom www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/4842656a6468.htmlI was trying to find article in The Herald apparently it is an excellent account from a reporter in the midst of it who barely escaped with his family. |
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Post by Lux on Feb 10, 2009 8:20:10 GMT 12
What really is heartwarming is the response by the Australian people, watched some of sky this morning and its just wonderful how ordinary everyday people are responding, gives me goosebumps when I see emotion like I saw in some of those reports.
I think NZ Redcross are collecting - we'll see what links we can find.
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Post by maire on Feb 10, 2009 11:05:30 GMT 12
I've deliberately not watched or read any news of this disaster as it is just too heartbreakingly sad.  But I got an email from a cousin in Palmy to say she had heard from our very elderly aunty who lives not too far from one of the areas affected. They are okay but no-one is venturing far from home or going outside much at all because of the smoke and ash. I had to go look at the Stuff site yesterday where there is a map to see just how close they are. Far too close for comfort. She has her family there, so if things get too bad, hopefully they can all get out somewhere safe. The images and stories are terribly sad and my heart goes out to all those who have been affected by this horror. I'm not a praying person, but this situation calls for any and all contributions. |
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Post by terauparaha on Feb 10, 2009 15:32:10 GMT 12
Bloody shocking. Never thought I'd feel sorry or bad for Australians.
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Post by bottlecar on Feb 10, 2009 16:11:13 GMT 12
Good idea Maire, I was in tears watching it last night. |
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Post by kokonutwoman on Feb 10, 2009 18:46:04 GMT 12
Same
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Post by misilon on Feb 11, 2009 10:29:44 GMT 12
poor darlings they didnt deserve that
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Post by cailz on Feb 11, 2009 13:18:00 GMT 12
Lets hope they catch the culprits, as their PM said, whoever did this is a mass murderer.  |
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Post by sparrow on Feb 11, 2009 14:57:06 GMT 12
It's mind blowingly awful. It beggars belief that people would do this to other people on purpose. I hope they catch the rotters too and do them for terrorism, mass murder etc - whatever they can.
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Post by cailz on Feb 11, 2009 20:34:44 GMT 12
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Post by treeman on Feb 11, 2009 21:05:41 GMT 12
30 million dollars donated so far to help people try to rebuild their lives.Isnt that brilliant?
I heard on the radio today a history professor saying that hundreds of years ago the aboriginees used to burn the bush regularly to make fire breaks.Then if a bush fire started it burned itself out without doing too much damage.
The white people pushed the aboriginees onto reserves and forced them to live in squalor. The aboriginees stopped doing their controlled burnoffs so the fire breaks grew back.
Now instead of a few hundred acres being burned , thousands of acres go up in smoke.
The cost of not carrying on "the old ways" Heartbreaking.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 12, 2009 1:10:01 GMT 12
I agree treeman. The donations are a fantastic example of the decency of people toward others in a time of tragedy. I thought this was a really heartwarming story. It's a clip of the little koala that survived the bushfire. Outstanding resilience: www.youtube.com/watch?v=do9AoKyjjQg |
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Post by naki on Feb 12, 2009 6:11:16 GMT 12
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Post by kokonutwoman on Feb 12, 2009 6:53:47 GMT 12
nutter alright
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Post by sparrow on Feb 12, 2009 8:08:19 GMT 12
Story here:
Abortion to blame for fires says Pastor
By RICK FENELY - SMH | Wednesday, 11 February 2009
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The Catch the Fire Ministries has tried to blame the bushfires disaster on laws decriminalising abortion in Victoria.
The evangelical church's leader, Pastor Danny Nalliah, claimed he had a dream about raging fires on October 21 last year and that he woke with "a flash from the Spirit of God: that His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb".
Pastor Nalliah said he was helping to co-ordinate fire relief, including providing trucks to distribute clothes and food and giving his own blood, but he said he must tell "the truth".
Asked by the Sydney Morning Herald if he did not believe most Australians would regard his remarks as being in appallingly bad taste, he said today: "I must tell people what they need to hear, not what they want to hear."
He said it was no use "molly-coddling" Australians.
Asked if he believed in a God who would take vengeance by killing so many people indiscriminately - even those who opposed abortion, Mr Nalliah referred to 2 Chronicles 7:14 to vouch for his assertion that God could withdraw his protection from a nation.
"The Bible is very clear," he said. "If you walk out of God's protection and turn your back on Him, you are an open target for the devil to destroy."
In the New King James version of the Bible, 2 Chronicles 7:14 states that: "If My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land."
Mr Nalliah said: "In my dream I saw fire everywhere with flames burning very high and uncontrollably. With this I woke up from my dream with the interpretation as the following words came to me in a flash from the Spirit of God: that His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb."
The former Treasurer, Peter Costello, sent a video message to an Australia Day prayer meeting organised by Pastor Nalliah.
He quoted a headline describing the fires as "The Darkest hour for Victoria". "A few months ago the news media should have reported 'the darkest hour for the unborn', but unfortunately the 'Decriminalisation of Abortion bill' went through parliament and was passed, thus making many people call Victoria 'the baby killing state of Australia,' " Mr Nalliah said.
Pastor Nalliah said there may be criticism. But he said he did not send out his media statement thoughtlessly. "We spend two days working on it."
He had previously said drought and the world financial crisis could be partly blamed on human sin.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 12, 2009 8:08:58 GMT 12
Good heavens. One could argue that "abortion" in this instance might have been the answer!
*I'm joking people*
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Post by Lux on Feb 12, 2009 9:26:47 GMT 12
I agree treeman. The donations are a fantastic example of the decency of people toward others in a time of tragedy. I thought this was a really heartwarming story. It's a clip of the little koala that survived the bushfire. Outstanding resilience: www.youtube.com/watch?v=do9AoKyjjQgPaul on Breakfast this morning, mentioned 'Sam' The koala had since been taken to an animal care center showed a pic of two koalas having a cuddle, Paul mentioned love, then Pippa pipes up with the other koalas name 'Bob' poor old Paul nearly jumped out of his seat, What??? he says ' two MEN' lol,...that guy cracks me up ;D |
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Post by cailz on Feb 12, 2009 12:40:14 GMT 12
Hey, Sam actually turned out to be a girl, so Bob was in good hands.  |
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Post by treeman on Feb 12, 2009 16:46:35 GMT 12
over 66 million donated now. Incredible humanity and generosity.Even amidst the recession.
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Post by treeman on Feb 13, 2009 11:27:18 GMT 12
Two arson suspects released. People baying for blood. Wanting to have somebody to blame.
Little solace to have innocent people behind bars. it is good to see that the australian police arent expected to bow to government forces in order to get a quick resolution to this arson/attempted murder case.
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Post by Lux on Feb 15, 2009 18:12:57 GMT 12
Did I hear right? Some of the fire victims suing the Government...fire could have started due to faulty power lines or something...I didn't quite catch the full story just came in on the overview.
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