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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 15:55:32 GMT 12
Interesting Misi. Some stalkers also have the pathology of (as an umbrella term) borderline personality disorder, which means they lack (to put it mildly) a moral compass on these matters. There are no particular boundaries and/or self-reflection. What occurs is they continue to justify their behaviour as "normal" or "legitimate" to themselves.
Take for example, joining websites or chat rooms where the object(s) of desire will be in order to continue some form of contact with them. It doesn't matter about the quality of the contact - it is the contact itself which is important to delude themselves there is some kind of relationship going on.
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 16:23:24 GMT 12
Interesting Misi. Some stalkers also have the pathology of (as an umbrella term) borderline personality disorder, which means they lack (to put it mildly) a moral compass on these matters. There are no particular boundaries and/or self-reflection. What occurs is they continue to justify their behaviour as "normal" or "legitimate" to themselves. Take for example, joining websites or chat rooms where the object(s) of desire will be in order to continue some form of contact with them. It doesn't matter about the quality of the contact - it is the contact itself which is important to delude themselves there is some kind of relationship going on. I just call them Fans Yes, I was even invited back to the cesspit a week or so ago by my main Fan. He is obsessed with me. I kindly declined the invitation. |
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Post by maire on Jun 3, 2007 16:28:02 GMT 12
gee that reminds me alot of the oldfriends messageboard.. but it was mainly contained in the boards, it was a common thing for some to befriend someone then sign on as another person and abuse the shite out the person since you had extracted lots of personal information regarding that person, especially from msn or the likes.. when i was chatting to people you start to get paranoid about how 'real' is this person.. personally i thought it was cowardly to use an anonomous to tell a person what you thought of them.. I remember those days well Queenie. Too many got too personally involved and when it turned bad, all hell broke loose. I kept to myself for the most part, lol I was quite shy in those days so didn't say much and didn't get into too much strife, only the once with someone that I did eventually meet and we get on well now. But I have had my share of internet stalking on another site, full on and very abusive, but water under the bridge and not often thought of now. |
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 16:52:39 GMT 12
gee that reminds me alot of the oldfriends messageboard.. but it was mainly contained in the boards, it was a common thing for some to befriend someone then sign on as another person and abuse the shite out the person since you had extracted lots of personal information regarding that person, especially from msn or the likes.. when i was chatting to people you start to get paranoid about how 'real' is this person.. personally i thought it was cowardly to use an anonomous to tell a person what you thought of them.. I remember those days well Queenie. Too many got too personally involved and when it turned bad, all hell broke loose. I kept to myself for the most part, lol I was quite shy in those days so didn't say much and didn't get into too much strife, only the once with someone that I did eventually meet and we get on well now. But I have had my share of internet stalking on another site, full on and very abusive, but water under the bridge and not often thought of now. Yes, You have been marvelous at handling your stalkers Maire, who of course are the same stalkers I have. Considering all that they have thrown at you, I can't believe the coolness and intelligence that you have displayed in your handling of it all. They have seen this thread in the cesspit and are back at it, calling you, me and Lux and Sparrow nasty nasty names plus telling more lies than ever about us all. I'll tell ya what's funny though. drunkard1025 thinks that Lux is Banshee from over there and is telling Ngatilatte who is one of their copycats all about things that Lux posted in there as Banshee. Muahahahahahaha ;D |
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Post by misilon on Jun 3, 2007 17:00:04 GMT 12
this prolly has nothing to do with cyber stalking but what about those that insist on meeting you
i have no interest in meeting anyone from cyber land, even tho unwittingly, I have met one or two which has turned out ok thank goodness
unavoidable because of delivery of goods ,..
some seem to make it a career calling to be the first to meet "so and so" and talk about it all over the boards,..nah nah nah!! I dont think so!!,...
it was never the reason i joined the message boards,..and it never will be ,...
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Post by maire on Jun 3, 2007 17:06:37 GMT 12
Sounds like a place to avoid terau, they appear to be absolutely besotted, cyber stalking at it's ugliest.
I'm pleased I haven't bothered going in there,
apart from the couple of times I have followed a link there ie.
Lol I had to clean out the computer afterwards, I didn't want any 'ryans' occurring.
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Post by maire on Jun 3, 2007 17:17:13 GMT 12
this prolly has nothing to do with cyber stalking but what about those that insist on meeting you i have no interest in meeting anyone from cyber land, even tho unwittingly, I have met one or two which has turned out ok thank goodness unavoidable because of delivery of goods ,.. some seem to make it a career calling to be the first to meet "so and so" and talk about it all over the boards,..nah nah nah!! I dont think so!!,... it was never the reason i joined the message boards,..and it never will be ,... :)That's how I feel too misi. Keep it impersonal and neatly contained online. You can still make friends and still have a good time on the threads without the risk of future problems. I have seen a lot of backstabbing & double dealing .. atrocious behaviour. |
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 17:36:41 GMT 12
That sounds good misilon but your pal ***Sadsack*** is the main one at saying he wants to meet me for a violent confrontation. Yeah your mate.
He is ***** in TM who is the person who pasted my real name in a thread heading in TM Opinions.
I reported it to TM admin of whom Sadsack's gang have befriended and the TM admin did nothing about it. Surely posting the real name of a TM member on their boards is the biggest rule that one can break and yet he didn't get disabled while others get disabled just for posting a link to zillion.
That is why I have laughed at TM admin threatening to take things further with me. Heads would roll there if their superiors found out what they have been up to for the last 18 months.
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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 17:41:38 GMT 12
Misi - I would advise you not to meet up with them unless you are sure they are on the level. I've met a couple of people from TM who have turned out to be lovely. Other ones who have wanted to meet and I haven't - I've just been firm about it.
TR - I wouldn't worry about what the Pitters say. I'd just point them to the emotoerotic, delusional, revenge-filled and borderline personality disordered traits of the Stalker profile.
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 17:41:52 GMT 12
Sounds like a place to avoid terau, they appear to be absolutely besotted, cyber stalking at it's ugliest. I'm pleased I haven't bothered going in there, apart from the couple of times I have followed a link there ie. Lol I had to clean out the computer afterwards, I didn't want any 'ryans' occurring. Just be careful if you go in there ever again Maire. They tracked my IP to an American MB that I joined a few weeks ago and about 5 of them were members there and harrassing me in no time at all. I told no one that I had joined the place. No one and there they were. That's how far they will go. |
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 17:46:03 GMT 12
I remember those days well Queenie. Too many got too personally involved and when it turned bad, all hell broke loose. I kept to myself for the most part, lol I was quite shy in those days so didn't say much and didn't get into too much strife, only the once with someone that I did eventually meet and we get on well now. But I have had my share of internet stalking on another site, full on and very abusive, but water under the bridge and not often thought of now. Yes, You have been marvelous at handling your stalkers Maire, who of course are the same stalkers I have. Considering all that they have thrown at you, I can't believe the coolness and intelligence that you have displayed in your handling of it all. They have seen this thread in the cesspit and are back at it, calling you, me and Lux and Sparrow nasty nasty names plus telling more lies than ever about us all. I'll tell ya what's funny though. *ena-sharples*1025 thinks that Lux is Banshee from over there and is telling Ngatilatte who is one of their copycats all about things that Lux posted in there as Banshee. Muahahahahahaha ;D Just for those who don't know. Banshee and Lux are two different people. *ena-sharples*1025 thinks they are the same person and he doesn't realise that Ngatilatte is supposed to be Banshee and he is telling them what Banshee posted. How dumb is that?  |
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Post by Lux on Jun 3, 2007 17:54:45 GMT 12
No probs, Te Rau,
I'd say the cleaning lady is at least half sloshed and can't figure his right hand from his left ,let alone who's who on the internet ;D
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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 17:56:20 GMT 12
TR - are you saying the Ngatilatte person is claiming to be Latte on the cesspit?
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Post by Lux on Jun 3, 2007 17:58:36 GMT 12
While NZ has yet to establish law pertaining directly to cyber stalkers - it is in the pipeline, meanwhile definitions in the Crimes Act 1961 does cover some legal issues in regard to cyber stalking.
This is what I found in regard to law and cyberstalking in the USA.
Cyberstalking legislationThe first U.S. cyberstalking law went into effect in 1999 in California. Other states include prohibition against cyberstalking in their harassment or stalking legislation. In Florida, HB 479 was introduced in 2003 to ban cyberstalking. This was signed into law on October 2003. [citation needed]
States in the U.S. have begun to address the use of computer equipment for stalking purposes:
Alabama, Arizona, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, New Hampshire and New York have included prohibitions against harassing electronic, computer or e-mail communications in their harassment legislation.
Alaska, Oklahoma, Wyoming, and California, have incorporated electronically communicated statements as conduct constituting stalking in their anti-stalking laws.
A few states have both stalking and harassment statutes that criminalize threatening and unwanted electronic communications.
Other states have laws other than harassment or anti-stalking statutes that prohibit misuse of computer communications and e-mail, while others have passed laws containing broad language that can be interpreted to include cyberstalking behaviors
Cyberstalking has also been addressed in recent U.S. federal law. For example, the Violence Against Women Act, passed in 2000, made cyberstalking a part of the federal interstate stalking statute. Still, there remains a lack of legislation at the federal level to specifically address cyberstalking, leaving the majority of legislative prohibitions against cyberstalking at the state level.[5] In the United Kingdom, the Malicious Communications Act (1998) classified cyberstalking as a criminal offense.[6]
Most stalking laws require that the perpetrator make a credible threat of violence against the victim; others include threats against the victim's immediate family; and still others require the alleged stalker's course of conduct constitute an implied threat.(1) While some conduct involving annoying or menacing behavior might fall short of illegal stalking, such behavior may be a prelude to stalking and violence and should be treated seriously.[7]
Online identity stealth blurs the line on infringement of the rights of would-be victims to identify their perpetrators. We need to debate how internet use can be traced without infringing on protected civil liberties.
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 19:47:20 GMT 12
TR - are you saying the Ngatilatte person is claiming to be Latte on the cesspit? No I'm not Anna. It's most likely a wonder copycat that drunkard1025 doesn't know about. wonder plays with everyone. Even his mates. Ngatilatte posted alluding to lux as this Lux person. I don't think latte would say that herself but I don't really know of course. |
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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 20:21:30 GMT 12
Okay TR. Well Ngatilatte is no longer at this party anyways!
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 23:10:03 GMT 12
That sounds good misilon but your pal ***Sadsack*** is the main one at saying he wants to meet me for a violent confrontation. Yeah your mate. He is ***** in TM who is the person who pasted my real name in a thread heading in TM Opinions. I reported it to TM admin of whom Sadsack's gang have befriended and the TM admin did nothing about it. Surely posting the real name of a TM member on their boards is the biggest rule that one can break and yet he didn't get disabled while others get disabled just for posting a link to zillion. That is why I have laughed at TM admin threatening to take things further with me. Heads would roll there if their superiors found out what they have been up to for the last 18 months. Now who is *****? Why can't I name the TM member who posted my real name in TM? Are we protecting him? |
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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 23:13:08 GMT 12
Nope TR. We're not. We're protecting our board.
If you put this in the whinge section - there will be no problem. Threads are gone every 24 hours.
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 23:22:29 GMT 12
I think I know what you mean Sparrow. What if I name him every day in the whinge section?
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Post by sparrow on Jun 3, 2007 23:25:17 GMT 12
I think I know what you mean Sparrow. What if I name him every day in the whinge section? ;D Lol. Up to you ...  |
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 3, 2007 23:52:38 GMT 12
Awww Thanks Sparrow
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Post by queenie on Jun 4, 2007 6:26:27 GMT 12
Oh i don't want it to sound all doom and gloom on the oldfriends messageboard, we use to have quite a laugh, but you just had to keep your wits about you..
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Post by rdsmum on Jun 4, 2007 6:33:40 GMT 12
yeah but wasn't there some right muppets on there !!!
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Post by terauparaha on Jun 4, 2007 12:29:57 GMT 12
yeah but wasn't there some right muppets on there !!! Says Spongebob  |
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Post by sparrow on Jun 4, 2007 13:33:30 GMT 12
I wasn't on Old Friends, but I think some of the "muppets" might still be around (from what I've heard). Some sound like very strange people indeed.
I've got a couple of friends interested in studying in the area of internet law and cyber bullying, and another one in the criminology aspect of it in the field of Psychology.
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