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Post by punga on Apr 10, 2008 21:51:40 GMT 12
now or in the past?
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 10, 2008 21:58:19 GMT 12
Muldoon then Kirk
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Post by punga on Apr 10, 2008 22:14:49 GMT 12
good shot...mine was muldoon too.the guy had character plus.i still remember his laugh. it went "hi hi hi hi hi" pronouncing the "I" like it is in "did" |
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Post by sparrow on Apr 10, 2008 23:48:38 GMT 12
David Lange.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 11, 2008 0:42:16 GMT 12
good shot...mine was muldoon too.the guy had character plus.i still remember his laugh. it went "hi hi hi hi hi" pronouncing the "I" like it is in "did" He was hilarious in the Rocky Horror Picture Show net stockings and all |
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Post by maire on Apr 11, 2008 6:41:24 GMT 12
David Lange for me too, there don't seem to have been any
since, who have been charismatic enough to be a 'favourite'.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 11, 2008 9:26:09 GMT 12
True Lange was very charismatic and he was real. Awesome debater
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Post by punga on Apr 11, 2008 10:01:23 GMT 12
True Lange was very charismatic and he was real. Awesome debater sadly,he was labour though lol  |
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Post by sparrow on Apr 11, 2008 10:26:30 GMT 12
True Lange was very charismatic and he was real. Awesome debater sadly,he was labour though lol Yes he was. He was also the most intelligent PM we've had! |
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 11, 2008 12:16:39 GMT 12
Ditto
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Post by Misstique on Jun 19, 2008 17:03:57 GMT 12
*** NORMAN KIRK ***
(I was only 8yrs old when he died, but I remember him visiting my school. He was my mums fave politician ... you could say this choice is a product of parental influence)
*** DAVID LANGE ***
(Fat or thin, this humble gentle man sure could politick! The heartfelt speech he gave in the 1985 Oxford Union debate where he argued the proposition that "nuclear weapons are morally indefensible" is simply one of his best performances as a politician.)
*** DR PITA SHARPLES ***
(I know this man! I grew up in his hometown. I am proud of our own. His performance in the last election show-down - was outstanding. He portrays integrity and honour. But only time & challenges will reflect how well he'll last the years out as a true Politcian for the people!)
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Post by blackpearl on Jun 20, 2008 9:58:21 GMT 12
Winston Peters. The guy sure knows how to rock the boat and I love his arrogant smirk. Big attitude, big ego, big asshole. lol.
I'm guessing this will be his swan song. He pratically said he was bowing out during a recent interview.
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Post by Misstique on Jun 20, 2008 20:13:39 GMT 12
Yeah I agree pearl ....
I've enjoyed watching Winston pull out the stops over the years.
He was the sort of politician that wasn't afraid to go for the jugular.
Examples: Winebox debacle, Maori have become welfare dependent, Send Saddams right hand man back to hole he crawled out of etc etc etc
But he's had his day. He's lost his flair and his stalwart support (the elderly).
Its time for him to move on. He has big shoes to fill.
IMHO anyway lol
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Post by lolly on Jun 20, 2008 20:54:53 GMT 12
savage for bringin in the welfare state...lange for his stanceon anti nukes.... his oxford speech was a classic..... and bill rowlingsi forgive him for lighting my fireworlds when my dad was meant to......i apolgise forthinking he was ahvign an affair with my mum....but i wasonly little.......
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Post by terauparaha on Jul 3, 2008 18:29:20 GMT 12
Yeah I agree pearl .... I've enjoyed watching Winston pull out the stops over the years. He was the sort of politician that wasn't afraid to go for the jugular. Examples: Winebox debacle, Maori have become welfare dependent, Send Saddams right hand man back to hole he crawled out of etc etc etc But he's had his day. He's lost his flair and his stalwart support (the elderly). Its time for him to move on. He has big shoes to fill. IMHO anyway lol sheesh How old are you Misstique? Ho Ho Ho ;D I thought you were quite young. Well ya can't tell on the internet can ya? |
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Post by terauparaha on Jul 3, 2008 18:31:22 GMT 12
I've never really liked a politician till Pita Sharples came along although I hold the most respect for Norm Kirk.
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Post by terauparaha on Jul 3, 2008 18:33:18 GMT 12
True Lange was very charismatic and he was real. Awesome debater sadly,he was labour though lol LOL You're in a lefty den here mate. Hopefully we'll swing you in the right direction by October |
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Post by nzsally on Jul 3, 2008 18:44:23 GMT 12
I've never really liked a politician till Pita Sharples came along although I hold the most respect for Norm Kirk. I only just remember Norman Kirk he was PM for such a short time so didn't leave a longlasting legacy, did he? I wonder how much hype around him is because wwe were robbed of his full potential since he died so young? The question still remains,what might have been if he'd lived & we'll never know, does that add to his appeal? I havent a favourite but I do like Ron Mark have no time for Jim Bolger |
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Post by Lux on Jul 3, 2008 19:13:52 GMT 12
I remember my Nan having a photo of Norman Kirk pride of place on her mantle piece I think most of her generation in our family had a great respect for him.
I haven't got a favorite pollie, but I do think favorably of Pita Sharples and Tariana Turia. Who I see as working strongly in Kaupapa Maori terms, they compliment each other well.
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Post by terauparaha on Jul 3, 2008 20:17:37 GMT 12
Norman Eric Kirk (1923-1974), the 46th New Zealand prime minister who served in office from December 1972 until his death on August 31, 1974. The former engine driver attained only primary school education but took over leadership of the Labour Party in 1965. Kirk was responsible for declaring New Zealand a nuclear free zone.
Norman Kirk promised that if Labour won the 1972 election it would not interfere with the New Zealand Rugby Football Union's decision to invite the Springboks to tour in 1973. When he made a U-turn in April 1973 and announced the government's decision to cancel the tour, it was met with howls of protest in some quarters. He argued that the country could not be put through the predicted social turmoil that would be the result of the tour proceeding.
In February 1972 Keith Holyoake resigned as prime minister and was replaced by Jack Marshall. Not even this could blunt Labour’s campaign slogan, ‘It’s time for a change’, and on 25 November 1972 Kirk led Labour to victory with a majority of 23 seats. It was very much Kirk’s personal triumph; he dominated the campaign, and gave his government a presidential stamp of authority that caught the public imagination during its first year of office. The conservative Dominion bestowed its ‘Man of the Year’ prize on him for ‘outstanding personal potential for leadership’. A few weeks later, on 6 February 1973, Kirk was photographed at Waitangi holding the hand of a small Maori boy. It seemed to symbolise a new era of racial partnership.
Capable of rambling at cabinet meetings and sometimes speaking in parables as he edged the process of decision-making forward, Kirk none the less gave the public appearance of a man in a hurry. Pensioners were given a Christmas bonus; home-building was stepped up; diplomatic relations were established between New Zealand and the People’s Republic of China; a grant was made to the United Nations Trust Fund for South Africa; and warm personal relationships were established with the leaders of Commonwealth countries such as India, Tanzania and Bangladesh. ‘We want New Zealand’s foreign policy to express New Zealand’s national ideals as well as reflect our national interests’, Kirk declared. On 10 April 1973 the government refused to grant visas to a South African rugby team because the sport was not racially integrated. He applied pressure to the French to stop testing nuclear weapons in the Pacific, and when this failed, a frigate was sent to the test area ‘to provide a focus for international opinion against the tests’. Kirk was heading an activist government the like of which had not been seen in New Zealand for 40 years.
He died on Saturday 31 August 1974 of ‘congestive cardiac failure’ and ‘thromboembolic pulmonary heart disease’. He was 51. Kirk was survived by his wife and family. Ruth Kirk died in March 2000. There followed an outpouring of grief paralleled only by that which had followed M. J. Savage’s death in 1940. People who had been slow to embrace Kirk as a leader could not believe that he had been snatched away, seemingly in his prime. As the Labour Party slid towards defeat at the 1975 election, legends grew about the man who might have saved the country from Muldoon. Princes, prime ministers and potentates with whom Kirk had established friendships also mourned his passing; most thought him an extraordinary individual, and the ‘log cabin to White House’ metaphor was on many lips. He was Labour’s last passionate believer in big government, someone whose commanding presence and extravagant rhetoric introduced a new idealism to political debate in New Zealand.
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Post by bottlecar on Jul 29, 2008 20:25:45 GMT 12
For me Kirk and Lange
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Post by graeme30 on Jul 31, 2008 14:12:36 GMT 12
Muldoon.  |
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Post by toerag on Aug 1, 2008 8:20:40 GMT 12
The current ones at the moment sux especially old Master 'K' for kitty kat.
Ah sorry cat lovers that is a bit of an insult to cats
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Post by graeme30 on Aug 1, 2008 8:31:17 GMT 12
The current ones at the moment sux especially old Master 'K' for kitty kat. Ah sorry cat lovers that is a bit of an insult to cats Yes they do suck and the public are like blind sheep being led as slaves of corrupt governments. |
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Post by toerag on Aug 1, 2008 23:43:05 GMT 12
The current ones at the moment sux especially old Master 'K' for kitty kat. Ah sorry cat lovers that is a bit of an insult to cats Yes they do suck and the public are like blind sheep being led as slaves of corrupt governments. Is that government or governments I rather like the Maori Party at the moment because they seem the adults in the game of politics in the sandpit |
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