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Post by kokonutwoman on May 22, 2008 14:35:18 GMT 12
Kahui not guilty, then who did it?
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Post by hps on May 22, 2008 14:43:10 GMT 12
Really? I didn't think they'd be able to say 'without a doubt' that he did it, I don't actually believe it was him either. I think the mother did it. But she could get away with it also if she gets charged with it. on the same basis that he has...not enough proof. Its basically her word against his. One of the pathologists said that the time of the injuries could not be determined, that you could only accept or not accept the testimony of the Mother in regards to putting a time to when the injuries occurred obviously the Mother has said she didn't cause the injuries so they must have happened after she had them, when she had dropped them off to the father, but that evidence was up for scrutiny because it wasn't determined what times she was and wasn't at the house.
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Post by hps on May 22, 2008 14:54:49 GMT 12
and even though I don't believe he physically abused those babies, I still think he should be charged with neglect and failure to provide the neccessities of life which contributed to the deaths of those beautiful baby boys.
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Post by sparrow on May 22, 2008 15:27:26 GMT 12
and even though I don't believe he physically abused those babies, I still think he should be charged with neglect and failure to provide the neccessities of life which contributed to the deaths of those beautiful baby boys. Same. I think he should be charged with failing to provide the necessities of life and neglect. I have my doubts that he killed the twins, but fgs, he could have done a better job in taking care of them and being a father when they were alive. |
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Post by toerag on May 22, 2008 17:00:12 GMT 12
and even though I don't believe he physically abused those babies, I still think he should be charged with neglect and failure to provide the neccessities of life which contributed to the deaths of those beautiful baby boys. Same. I think he should be charged with failing to provide the necessities of life and neglect. I have my doubts that he killed the twins, but fgs, he could have done a better job in taking care of them and being a father when they were alive. Agree This week has been a crazy week with court cases, the two cases in Chc, uncle found not guilt of killing his niece, other one pending. Son found guilty of of o/ding his mum to ease her pain, now this one. |
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Post by Lux on May 22, 2008 17:14:16 GMT 12
Bloody crazy alright, I think its disgusting that the son who o'ded his mother was even put on trial and fully understand his reasoning for wanting to give his mum the drugs in the first place, I've watched people die in agony and it is the worse thing you can go through, of course you just want peace for them when all hope has gone. And the truth of the matter is (in my opinion) it is a common occurrence for terminal patients suffering great pain to be 'accidentally' overdosed, I reckon it happens way more often than people are able to admit, with the ok of many families involved in the care of a terminally ill patient who is suffering great pain.
The case of the man with his niece, hard to say what happened there, but the eye witness most likely brought about that outcome.
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Post by lolly on May 23, 2008 21:04:55 GMT 12
THe baby stopped breathing 17 hours before it got to the hospital?
At thevery least both parents should be charged with failing to provide care to those two babies.For goodnes sakes who goes to mcds....... when their babues are as sick oand or dead perhaps as those two were...Its a travesty a flaming travesty..As for the boy who helped his mother die...he is found guilty...for goodness sakes the sooner they bring in euthanasia and people with last stage terminal illness can choose their time to leave.... the better.Life is precious but is it thatprecious we have to make people suffer.. more and morei think this boils down to hte precious egos of the doctors..
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Post by Lux on May 24, 2008 10:21:08 GMT 12
I think the police got stumped in the Kahui case, and with amounting pressure from the public to arrest someone they did, but I don't think they were happy about it - they knew the case against Chris wasn't strong enough, they also didn't get a break through with the family, probably not because the family wouldn't speak but because no-one except the person who did the hurting knew it was going on, because no-one cared enough to take any notice. If the Mother is as much of a drop kick vicious drugged out cow as we have been getting some insight of, its not that unusual that the family didn't go near her. Though selfish and uncaring if they suspected the twins were being abused.
The end result, the terrible death of two babies, thats what can happen in a highly dysfunctional family.
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Post by Lux on May 24, 2008 10:25:29 GMT 12
Not so much egos I think Lolly but careers down the toilet. There was a doco on where a doctor did say it happens all the time, but you'll never see it noted, it is Doctors protecting their careers and reputations, but its understandable, it takes a lot of hard work to become a Doctor. Its just such a gray area, law change would take away the fear, but would also cause another set of problems.
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Post by kokonutwoman on May 24, 2008 11:26:20 GMT 12
If the police have shut the case then perhaps a private investigation because someone/s need to be accountable.
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Post by flissnz on May 27, 2008 9:15:42 GMT 12
Glad to hear the ombudsman and coroner are looking at these again.
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Post by punga on May 27, 2008 20:14:09 GMT 12
i believe that at least one policeman was hell bent on finding kahui guilty and possibly made up facts or planted evidence to do so.i think that because of this,no one else can be charged because arresting anyone else would possibly contradict some of the police evidence. imho
i cant see any other reason why they wouldnt be chasing someone else.
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Post by misilon on May 27, 2008 21:27:00 GMT 12
poor little darlings,
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Post by sparrow on May 27, 2008 21:40:21 GMT 12
i believe that at least one policeman was hell bent on finding kahui guilty and possibly made up facts or planted evidence to do so.i think that because of this,no one else can be charged because arresting anyone else would possibly contradict some of the police evidence. imho i cant see any other reason why they wouldnt be chasing someone else.  Makes a certain kind of sense. Both of them should have been in the dock. |
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