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Post by misilon on Aug 19, 2007 14:02:19 GMT 12
I read about people having their readings done by psychics ,..and, who put quite a lot by what they are being told, One of the reasons so many have turned to these psychic reading’s is because they have this idea,..that it’s a supplementary religion that stands alongside Christianity. Psychic reading is a practise of a craft,. it can be like making anything that may fill your needs,.. becoming good at it,.. practice makes ,..well,..perfect!!,..
However as with any hobby or craft it is necessary to control it and not let it control you,..after all that is all it is a hobby or a craft, isn’t it .
Why I say that is, if they were fer real, how come none of them saw September the 11th attacks,..or the war in Afghanistan,..or the economic recession in germany blah blah blah,.!
Even if in rare cases, human predictions come true,. nobody is able to foretell exactly which ones will, There is, however, considerable evidence that to err is profoundly human they fail miserably in their so called craft of the foretelling of any events good or bad,.. But these people are well practiced in human behaviour, attitudes, and mentality, skills. No wonder they can tickle the superstitious natures of the curious and hungry, for unusual knowledge galore
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Post by Lux on Aug 19, 2007 15:35:06 GMT 12
I think they are more apt at talking about the past rather than the future, though if they plant the right seeds, it becomes a mind over matter thing in my opinion, you can make what is foretold happen if you want to.
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Post by bossybitch on Aug 19, 2007 16:23:27 GMT 12
I dont believe it is a craft. I have had premonitions and some of them have been events in my life. Some of them have been strong enough to change situations for the better. ESP is something I can relate to but I am still unsure of my gift. It is not evil but something some of us know about and use when we least expect.
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Post by misilon on Aug 19, 2007 17:14:48 GMT 12
haha ,..yeah I havent said yet that they are evil but but but???
lux if you have to make efforts towards what has been revealed to you,..then it isnt the same thing, cos its supposed to happen anyway ,.. What if you had been told something ominously gross,... you dont wanna know,. what then? its still supposed to happen ,..its only in story books and tv,... that one can do somjedthing about reversing matters,.....dunno eh?
because our brain has the equivalent of eternity wrapped up in it,...naturally we have these visionary or premonition inclinations, thats just part of our makeup and if you look around at what gender makes up the majority of psychics its women,....
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Post by misilon on Aug 22, 2007 16:56:43 GMT 12
the most commonly known psychic readings comes in the form of Horoscopes ,...them what fills the magazines,..newspapers etc,.. On a the skin of a spiritualist is a substance called ectoplasm,..it seeps much like an electric mist does from electric wires and substations,.. that substance is in action ,..for the powers that be, of the negative air, that operates thru, to the medium, when the medium is in a trance,..
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Post by Lux on Aug 25, 2007 12:20:39 GMT 12
I see insight is going to be on again, can't wait.
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Post by bingbong on Sept 1, 2007 21:56:07 GMT 12
I did go to a carrot card reader once and she said something about be careful of a person with red hair. I coulant relate to that at the time but did later and was so accurate. I was very careful not to colour the discussion AND I believe if people are not centred in themselves then there is danger there.
I believe there are many levels of reality outside of the psychic zone as known that feeds into awareness through experiences, intituation , feeling and then environment like being able to read the environment for information like some read a paper are all part of the non physical realities etc
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Post by bossybitch on Nov 20, 2007 6:51:55 GMT 12
True Diana you did not say it was evil but some people do associate such readings as being evil or dealing with unnatural things. It wasn't intended on directing the opinion towards anyone person dear just my own feelings and what some Christians say about those sorts of things. I have them all the time, and many premonitions have helped with my life and saved my children's lives too. True stories too.
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Post by misilon on Nov 20, 2007 11:48:38 GMT 12
hello bossy I agree that quite a number of people do have those premonitions and that there is a power that is associated with such, in fact a power source to the effect,,..and I dont have a problem with that,....and really it is none of my business
to so many out there who do not have any spiritual leanings(( ahhh so many but not that many to even make a difference really)) it probably sits right alongside the same lines as some one who believe's in a diety anyway
My biff with psychics, spirit mediums,.and such foreteller of events,.. glass ball gazers,.and premonition seers,.. is the claims by some that thier power comes from the God of the bible,..Not so it is a claim that goes deadly against his standards
I called it a craft because witchcraft comes under the same umbrella as the rest, cheers
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Post by precious on Apr 11, 2008 14:27:39 GMT 12
God had many prophets did he not? Gods Prophets foretold the future, and were premonition seers were they not? God told the Prophets in dreams and their subconsious what was going to happen so they could tell everyone else, so why disbelieve that people today dont have that gift?
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Post by misilon on Apr 11, 2008 15:46:32 GMT 12
it stopped with the bible,..it was all that we needed,..
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Post by Lux on Apr 11, 2008 17:43:56 GMT 12
What does it say in the bible that makes you think it stopped misi?
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Post by guest on Apr 11, 2008 20:03:34 GMT 12
What does it say in the bible that makes you think it stopped misi? It doesn't, charles told her........
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Post by misilon on Apr 12, 2008 8:06:10 GMT 12
What does it say in the bible that makes you think it stopped misi? It doesn't, charles told her........ Oi wots this?? Mr Post'salot miraculous offering of readable words from the tips of his fingers, and I will reckon he dosent even believe in miracles either, its been so long since charley died he isnt even fodder for the worms now, let alone moi! gee wizz I just read this post again,..it was meant to be funny but it dosent look like that,...sorry george it looks really yuk! too late I cant wipe it now!
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Post by misilon on Apr 12, 2008 8:24:27 GMT 12
God had many prophets did he not? Gods Prophets foretold the future, and were premonition seers were they not? God told the Prophets in dreams and their subconsious what was going to happen so they could tell everyone else, so why disbelieve that people today dont have that gift? you are right precious on all accounts and far be it from me to say people today should not have what you call "that gift" its not that I disbelieve they exist,.. its that I have a difference of opinion about their power sources,... based on my own personal knowledge, of what the bible has to say,..
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 12, 2008 9:06:05 GMT 12
God had many prophets did he not? Gods Prophets foretold the future, and were premonition seers were they not? God told the Prophets in dreams and their subconsious what was going to happen so they could tell everyone else, so why disbelieve that people today dont have that gift? you are right precious on all accounts and far be it from me to say people today should not have what you call "that gift" its not that I disbelieve they exist,.. its that I have a difference of opinion about their power sources,... based on my own personal knowledge, of what the bible has to say,.. I call these people spook meisters and for me I believe that some people have a gift I might not like in but it's there. My opinion is based on my heritage PI and what some scholars call myths. Misi can you give me a reference in the bible please.
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Post by Lux on Apr 12, 2008 12:15:05 GMT 12
Who the heck is Charlie? I have to admit I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to the bible but I don't recall a 'Charlie'.
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Post by guest on Apr 12, 2008 15:47:00 GMT 12
charles taze russel, the last great prophet..
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Post by toerag on Apr 12, 2008 17:46:20 GMT 12
Who
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Post by precious on Apr 12, 2008 18:20:01 GMT 12
What i find bizzare is that according to the bible, you have to rid ourselves of all the foretellers, seers etc as they are evil etc etc, but yet Gods Prophets were exactly this.
History concludes that the catholics in fact created the bible over a hundred years after jesus's death so they could bring order to the chaos they themselves were creating.
It was all about greed, history also tells us that the bible has been changed many times, what what may have been first off may not be this now and for those that follow this are foolish.
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Post by misilon on Apr 12, 2008 18:55:29 GMT 12
hello precious,...a question? have you yourself read the bible ?
can you elaborate on your history sources?,...please.
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Post by misilon on Apr 12, 2008 19:09:49 GMT 12
you are right precious on all accounts and far be it from me to say people today should not have what you call "that gift" its not that I disbelieve they exist,.. its that I have a difference of opinion about their power sources,... based on my own personal knowledge, of what the bible has to say,.. I call these people spook meisters and for me I believe that some people have a gift I might not like in but it's there. My opinion is based on my heritage PI and what some scholars call myths. Misi can you give me a reference in the bible please. not sure what you were after kokonutwoman Various Forms of Spiritism The practice of spiritism can be in the form of consulting a spirit medium, inquiring of the dead, (by ouija board ),.or looking for omens. One popular form of spiritism is divination—attempting to find out about the future ( horoscopes ),.or the unknown with the help of spirits. Some forms of divination are astrology, crystal-ball gazing, interpretation of dreams, palmistry, and fortune-telling with the help of tarot cards. the claim by so many practicing such is that they recieve thier power by means of God,... in view of the scriptures,.not so,.. Deuteronomy. 18:10-12. There should not be found in you anyone who makes his son or his daughter pass through the fire, anyone who employs divination, a practicer of magic or anyone who looks for omens or a sorcerer, 11 or one who binds others with a spell or anyone who consults a spirit medium or a professional foreteller of events or anyone who inquires of the dead. 12 For everybody doing these things is something detestable to Jehovah, and on account of these detestable things Jehovah your God is driving them away from before you. (Galatians 5:19-21) Now the works of the flesh are manifest, and they are fornication, uncleanness, loose conduct, 20 idolatry, PRACTICE OF SPIRITISM , enmities, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, contentions, divisions, sects, 21 envies, drunken bouts, revelries, and things like these. As to these things I am forewarning YOU, the same way as I did forewarn YOU, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s kingdom.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 12, 2008 20:41:02 GMT 12
Thank you Misi I haven't near a bible in years and I'll need time to digest it
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Post by precious on Apr 12, 2008 21:25:28 GMT 12
hello precious,...a question? have you yourself read the bible ? can you elaborate on your history sources?,...please. Yes I have read the bible Misi and there is no need to get on the defence. Maybe you should research a little instead of taking a myth book at face value.
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Post by kokonutwoman on Apr 13, 2008 9:32:43 GMT 12
Ok Misi - I think this is why I haven't been near a bible in years. I find some written words in conflict with my spiritualism. I was dragged up a catholic but found all teachings irrespective of religious denomination in conflict to practice such as open racism when the bible teaches that we are all equal in the eyes of god. The whole business of 10% of earnings grates me especially when religious groups demand it. Now I can remember my dear darling mother said there was a section in the bible (I should have paid more attention) that can be used as a horoscope something to do with numbers of the date of birth - numerology comes into play here, should have paid more attention darn it.
Im opened to most religious practise and respect them as individual choice, but I am also aware of the various psychic practises. Apologies for any offence.
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