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Post by terauparaha on Jan 22, 2009 11:53:54 GMT 12
A leaked email outlines attempts to create a European "mini-state" in North Canterbury.
Former National Front leader and skinhead Kyle Chapman wrote the email to the National Alliance -- a far-Right group -- and the email was leaked on to the internet.
The email begins with "Hello Patriots" and calls for donations to help build a "Nationalist Land Base".
The first base would be set up in North Canterbury, Mr Chapman's email said.
It would have a school, accommodation, a meeting house for leaders and "active Nationalists".
Other features at the base would be a training area for "sport fighting" and "survivalist training" and it would be a "protected community".
"With an ever decreasing European population we face the real risk of having no power in our Nation," he said.
"We must act to build a unified mini state that we could build up in future to be a base for other like minded Europeans to come to from other dying countries."
Waimakariri MP Clayton Cosgrove told The Press newspaper the idea was "nutty".
"He's 50 or 60 years behind the world. People have moved on. It's crackpot stuff," he said.
The language used in the email "bred hate and division", said Mr Cosgrove.
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Post by Lux on Jan 22, 2009 12:38:48 GMT 12
I think he used to be in Lower Hutt at one stage, the freak has flipped out all over the Country MP Cosgrove's comment was a bit of an understatement - what no dawn raids? No ninja warriors being sent out to arrest the terrorists and freak out the locals?
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Post by sparrow on Jan 22, 2009 12:50:17 GMT 12
"Sport fighting" and "survivalist training"? Yes. I look forward to the dawn raids and armed defenders checking up on Kyle, stopping the locals and searching the little kids bus.
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Post by naki on Jan 22, 2009 13:00:27 GMT 12
Let them do it.
keep them all in one place, easier to manage.
Might be interesting to see how many local businesses are willing to be associated with such a bunch, let alone finance their daft scheme.
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Post by Lux on Jan 22, 2009 13:29:12 GMT 12
We're talking the SI here naki LoL
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Post by kokonutwoman on Jan 22, 2009 15:26:47 GMT 12
lol lux
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Post by Lux on Jan 22, 2009 16:11:31 GMT 12
He has been all over the Country recruiting though and it would make sense that he set up his wee
Aryan Nation somewhere friendly! LoL
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Post by bingbong on Jan 22, 2009 16:41:14 GMT 12
I think Sparrow he has the dawn raids covered. On the compound he will have written "Hugs Not Handcuffs" or better still lets hope when he goes to bed in his undies that he pulls them over his head and pulls the pin on a grenade throws it in!!!!!!
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Post by sparrow on Jan 22, 2009 18:28:37 GMT 12
Ha! I need to borrow the lad's ninja mask then bingbong and acquire some night vision googles. I'd feel positively Silence of the Lambs. Lol.
As for Chapman's grundies and grenades ... that sounds amusing even though, I'm sure, the sight would be ugly. Lol.
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Post by toerag on Jan 23, 2009 1:27:29 GMT 12
old chapman up to his old tricks, maybe he and mb2 should share a venue and we should throw sharpen stilettos at them,
bingbong, I agree with sparrow ugly ugy sight lmao
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Post by Lux on Jan 23, 2009 7:55:46 GMT 12
;D I can just see mossy beating the dust off the welcome mat, whipping up a batch of scones, tossing the salad, pounding some meat for the neighbourly barbie. LoL...in his frilly white apron!  |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 7:47:09 GMT 12
Is this national front guys plan much different to the Tama Iti training camp?
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 7:49:57 GMT 12
Is this national front guys plan much different to the Tama Iti training camp? Yes. Tame Iti's camp isn't based on supremacist ideology and is open to all. Most of the so-called terrorists were white people not resident in Tuhoe. Iti's camps are based in ancestral tribal territory where his people have been in residence for a thousand years and Iti claims direct descent. Setting up a white supremacist camp breaches human rights which, I'm sure, Chapman and co will find out soon enough. |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 8:05:46 GMT 12
Hitler started off the same way didnt he? Thought he was better than everybody else and HIS way was the only way. The three are/were very dangerous men.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 8:10:49 GMT 12
Hitler started off the same way didnt he? Thought he was better than everybody else and HIS way was the only way. The three are/were very dangerous men. No. Hitler did not start off that way. He went pretty mad after WW1. And I don't believe Iti is dangerous. He is too public in his protest against the Government and he has never tried to lead a revolution. The NZ public should actually be grateful that Iti hasn't used his considerable mana to try and lead disaffected youth into an armed struggle. He's had quite a long time in which to do that, but has never shown the inclination. |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 8:21:39 GMT 12
I presume you have read "mein camp".
I beg to differ regarding tama Iti, he has very little mana and really only has on standing or self percieved status among the disassociated maori youth or those who have little association with a marae (sp).
He reminds me of the little fox terrier who invaded the garden at Wanganui
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 8:31:45 GMT 12
I presume you have read "mein camp". I beg to differ regarding tama Iti, he has very little mana and really only has on standing or self percieved status among the disassociated maori youth or those who have little association with a marae (sp). He reminds me of the little fox terrier who invaded the garden at Wanganui Not true. Iti has huge mana inside Maori society which is where mana really counts. He is treated like a rock star wherever he goes and he has a large following. The fact that mainstream baby boomers don't like him, just adds to his reputation and mana in Maori society. He would probably have more of a following than a lot of politicians. I think it is pretty admirable that he has been responsible with that following and chooses to make his own protests publicly, and on his own terms. |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 8:51:47 GMT 12
He is an embarrassment to the elders.Only in New Zealand does a person (Maori) get away with doing what he has done.
If a white person had bared their buttocks at the queen they would have been carted off to jail quick smart, or had they discharged a firearm in a public place the same would have happened.
He gets away with it because he is Maori, heavily tattooed facially and very much in the public eye.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 9:07:57 GMT 12
He is an embarrassment to the elders.Only in New Zealand does a person (Maori) get away with doing what he has done. If a white person had bared their buttocks at the queen they would have been carted off to jail quick smart, or had they discharged a firearm in a public place the same would have happened. He gets away with it because he is Maori, heavily tattooed facially and very much in the public eye. What elders are they, treeman? I can assure you, Tame is well supported by the elders where he comes from. He bared his buttocks in protest - at his own marae. The fact it was publicised by the media is hardly his fault is it? Or people could exercise self-control and change channels. All the rest of it has been before the Court. Iti doesn't "get away" with anything. He probably has more public scrutiny for his political beliefs than most people do in this country. |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 9:27:30 GMT 12
Tama is a very bright man sparrow. He knew exactly what he was doing, he used the media to his own ends.Much like winston peters used to.
If he has as much mana as you say he has why have the maori party not bought him on board? Pita Sharples decried Tamas behaviour as to did Dereck Fox.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 9:33:39 GMT 12
Tama is a very bright man sparrow. He knew exactly what he was doing, he used the media to his own ends.Much like winston peters used to. If he has as much mana as you say he has why have the maori party not bought him on board? Pita Sharples decried Tamas behaviour as to did Dereck Fox. Tame doesn't appear to be interested in national politics, treeman. He has had more than one opportunity to join political parties, work for the Government etc, but seems to prefer to be independent. I agree with you on Tame being intelligent, treeman, but it makes little sense for someone with an antagonistic relationship with the media to "use" them. It appears to be the other way around: where the media used Iti to sensationalise something that was pretty much under control. Neither the Waitangi Tribunal representatives or the Police in attendance laid complaints against Iti's protest. Local Police appear to have had a high level of political pressure put on them by the Government to lay charges on the incident. As an aside, Iti is about as far removed from Winston Peters as you could get. Sharples and Fox are allowed their opinions of Iti, but I don't remember either of them truly "decrying" Iti's actions. |
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Post by sparrow on Feb 3, 2009 9:34:14 GMT 12
In saying all this, treeman - how do you feel about the planned national front compound? Are you in support or against?
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 9:44:13 GMT 12
I am against it.
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Post by Lux on Feb 3, 2009 9:59:29 GMT 12
He is an embarrassment to the elders.Only in New Zealand does a person (Maori) get away with doing what he has done. If a white person had bared their buttocks at the queen they would have been carted off to jail quick smart, or had they discharged a firearm in a public place the same would have happened. He gets away with it because he is Maori, heavily tattooed facially and very much in the public eye. What a load of bullocks - who are you to be making statements about a person's mana or what elders might or might not think in regard? Dun Mihaka bared his buttocks to royalty not the Queen directly, Iti bared his butt and discharged a firearm ON private land in a reenactment of an historical event. Get ya BUMS right! |
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Post by treeman on Feb 3, 2009 10:05:13 GMT 12
Sorry about that lux. Not much of a bum man ;D
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