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Post by Lux on Feb 4, 2009 17:54:22 GMT 12
Interesting,bias eh that goes both ways. Its a fool who doesnt learn by experience. How many Nia Glassons have to perish before the blame for the behaviour is laid at the feet of the perps. Oh of course it the pakehas fault for little nia dying. if they hadnt invented the clothesline and tumble dryer..... Sparrow you are obviously educated its a pity you are so ignorant and arrogant. Go to a police station and ask the sergeant or watch house officer if you can go for a ride along and see first hand what it is like out there.That applies to all you people who think its one sided. I will wait with baited breath to hear the reasons why you wont. But you and I KNOW the REAL REASON is you are afraid you will be proved WRONG You're pathetic.
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Post by treeman on Feb 4, 2009 17:56:59 GMT 12
Thank you lux. I am also RIGHT.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 4, 2009 18:04:28 GMT 12
Interesting,bias eh that goes both ways. Its a fool who doesnt learn by experience. How many Nia Glassons have to perish before the blame for the behaviour is laid at the feet of the perps. Oh of course it the pakehas fault for little nia dying. if they hadnt invented the clothesline and tumble dryer..... Sparrow you are obviously educated its a pity you are so ignorant and arrogant. Go to a police station and ask the sergeant or watch house officer if you can go for a ride along and see first hand what it is like out there.That applies to all you people who think its one sided. I will wait with baited breath to hear the reasons why you wont. But you and I KNOW the REAL REASON is you are afraid you will be proved WRONG Smite away to your hearts content. I will take it as pay back .Knowing full well that you know I am right. Thats the only way you can try and make yourself feel better The term is actually "bated" but I'll just put that down to ignorance and arrogance. You seem to have gone all over the place in your argument and come up empty handed. As said earlier: this is just basic comprehension of logical, coherent and cogent argument - written in the English language. It's about Police attention, treeman not specific cases. In saying that, however, and given you have opened the door on this one, I would really like to know - in your opinion - what are (and I quote) the REAL REASONS that (using your example) for the fate of children like Nia Glassie.
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Post by treeman on Feb 4, 2009 18:05:02 GMT 12
Thankyou. Lets see if we can get -20 by bed time.
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Post by treeman on Feb 4, 2009 18:10:08 GMT 12
If I tell you what i think you will accuse me of being a typical cop (ex cop). Yes i am not too bright but I have a shiteload of nouse and experience. Go for a ride along on a sat or sun night then get back to me. because until you have seen it first hand you are talking crap ;D
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Post by terauparaha on Feb 4, 2009 18:13:47 GMT 12
Interesting,bias eh that goes both ways. Its a fool who doesnt learn by experience. How many Nia Glassons have to perish before the blame for the behaviour is laid at the feet of the perps. Oh of course it the pakehas fault for little nia dying. if they hadnt invented the clothesline and tumble dryer..... Sparrow you are obviously educated its a pity you are so ignorant and arrogant. Go to a police station and ask the sergeant or watch house officer if you can go for a ride along and see first hand what it is like out there.That applies to all you people who think its one sided. I will wait with baited breath to hear the reasons why you wont. But you and I KNOW the REAL REASON is you are afraid you will be proved WRONG Smite away to your hearts content. I will take it as pay back .Knowing full well that you know I am right. Thats the only way you can try and make yourself feel better Who's fault is it when a Pakeha kid is killed by family bodgie? The marries too? That's right you don't even know when it's a Pakeha kid because only the Maori cases are highlighted, and MAN aren't they highlighted? " Go to a police station and ask the sergeant or watch house officer if you can go for a ride along and see first hand what it is like out there. " Is that South Auckland or Timaru? If it's Timaru there won't be many Maori, mostly Pakeha. If it's South Auckland then they'll be Maori and Pacific Islanders. And if it's China they'll be Chinese. Hell I'm brainy eh?
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Post by terauparaha on Feb 4, 2009 18:15:24 GMT 12
Hold it I think Sparrow's in Christchurch. That would be a real mix now wouldn't it but I bet the majority are Pakeha.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 4, 2009 18:20:53 GMT 12
Good heavens, TR. I couldn't agree more. I am unsure as to how driving with the Police on a Saturday or Sunday night in Christchurch would suddenly change my mind that Maori are 3x more likely than Pakeha to be arrested by the Police.
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Post by terauparaha on Feb 4, 2009 18:36:51 GMT 12
Not hard to work out who treeman was looking to arrest when he was a cop is it?
I'd be interested to know how he was brought up.
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Post by sparrow on Feb 4, 2009 18:43:46 GMT 12
I think we need to thank, treeman though TR. As an ex-Policeman, his attitudes actually confirm why there is an inherent bias in the Police Force and why it is commendable that the Police are trying to address it. We may question why and how the Police are addressing the bias, but I think it important that we acknowledge that they are trying.
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Post by treeman on Feb 4, 2009 18:51:20 GMT 12
Proud to be White - Michael Richards makes his point...
Michael Richards, better known as Kramer from TVs Seinfeld, does make a good point. This was his defense speech in court after making racial comments in his comedy act. He makes some very interesting points...
Someone finally said it... How many are actually paying attention to this?
"There are African Americans, Mexican Americans, Asian Americans, Arab Americans, etc. And then there are just Americans.
You pass me on the street and sneer in my direction. You call me 'White boy,' 'Cracker,' 'Honkey,' 'Whitey,' 'Caveman' .. And that's OK.
But when I call you, Nigger, Kike, Towel head, Sand-nigger, Camel Jockey, Beaner, Gook, or Chink ... You call me a racist. You say that Whites commit a lot of violence against you... So why are the ghettos the most dangerous places to live?
You have the United Negro College Fund. You have Martin Luther King Day. You have Black History Month. You have Cesar Chavez Day. You have Yom Hashoah. You have Ma'uled Al-Nabi. You have the NAACP. You have BET...
If we had WET (White Entertainment Television), we'd be racists..
If we had a White Pride Day, you would call us racists. If we had White History Month, we'd be racists.
If we had any organization for only whites to 'advance' our, Lives we'd be racists.
We have a Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, a Black Chamber of Commerce, and then we just have the plain Chamber of Commerce. Wonder who pays for that??
A white woman could not be in the Miss Black American pageant, but any color can be in the Miss America pageant.
If we had a college fund that only gave white students Scholarships. You know we'd be racists.
There are over 60 openly proclaimed Black Colleges in the US . Yet if there were 'White colleges' That would be a racist college..
In the Million Man March, you believed that you were marching for your race and rights.
If we marched for our race and rights, you would call us Racists.
You are proud to be black, brown, yellow and orange, and you're not afraid to announce it.
But when we announce our white pride, you call us racist!
You rob us, carjack us, and shoot at us. But, when a white Police officer shoots a black gang member or beats up a black drug-dealer running from the law and posing a threat to society, you call him a racist.
I am proud... But you call me a racist.
Why is it that only whites can be racists?
that should get me at least -1000
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Post by sparrow on Feb 4, 2009 19:05:46 GMT 12
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Post by terauparaha on Feb 4, 2009 21:58:42 GMT 12
Why must you be anti Maori to be Pro White though?
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